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## Background | ## Background | ||
- | I became aware of the Cosmos Magazine article [The unforgotten sisters: Sonduk, the astronomer queen](https:// | + | I became aware of a Cosmos Magazine article [The unforgotten sisters: Sonduk, the astronomer queen](https:// |
- | These include | + | These include claims that the female king was an astronomer herself as a princess, had a Tang ambassador |
- | I found out from reading the article that it was adapted from an earlier book by the same author, Gabriella Bernardi' | + | I found out from reading the article that it was adapted from an earlier book by the same author, Gabriella Bernardi' |
- | The chapter made similar implausible claims that I had not seen in any historical record or non-fictional discussions of historical records. | + | On seeking out the book and reading |
- | To prevent the further spread of possible misinformation and to correct the record if necessary, I set out to discover the source of these assertions about Seondeok | + | To prevent the further spread of possible misinformation and to correct the record if necessary, I set out to discover the source of these assertions about Seondeok |
- | Suspicions about these claims and subsequent research were recorded contemporaneously on a [Mastodon thread](https:// | + | The bibliography was the only source of citations available to readers, as the Cosmos Magazine article has no citations other than *Unforgotten Sisters,* which in turn has no footnotes or inline citations that I could find. |
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+ | Textual note: Suspicions about these claims and subsequent research were recorded contemporaneously on a [Mastodon thread](https:// | ||
This page and linked pages are a more formal documentation and expansion of the findings. | This page and linked pages are a more formal documentation and expansion of the findings. | ||
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The following are the claims in the Cosmos Magazine article and/or the Seondeok chapter of *Unforgotten Sisters* that I found dubious for not being found in recorded history: | The following are the claims in the Cosmos Magazine article and/or the Seondeok chapter of *Unforgotten Sisters* that I found dubious for not being found in recorded history: | ||
- | * Votive | + | * The princess((Seondeok was known as Deokman before she took the throne; the regnal title " |
- | * Claimed birth year of 610 CE | + | * She was 15 years old when she left messages on her grandmother' |
- | * Peony seed anecdote dated to seven years of age | + | * She was born in 610 CE. |
- | * A Chinese ambassador | + | * When she was seven years old, she predicted gifted peonies' |
- | * Astronomer princess | + | * A Chinese ambassador, Lin Fang, served |
- | * Solar eclipse | + | * She was dedicated to the study of astronomy. |
- | * Begged | + | * She accurately predicted a solar eclipse. |
- | * Method | + | * She begged |
+ | * History records the specific method | ||
The problem with most of these claims are, at base, that they are not found in the known historical records from books such as the *Samguk Sagi* (三國史記, | The problem with most of these claims are, at base, that they are not found in the known historical records from books such as the *Samguk Sagi* (三國史記, | ||
Some of the problems are elaborated in more detail below: | Some of the problems are elaborated in more detail below: | ||
- | ### Claimed year of birth | + | ### Year of birth |
Seondeok' | Seondeok' | ||
Yet the Cosmos Magazine article states that "She was born in 610 CE," while the Seondeok chapter of *Unforgotten Sisters* makes two conflicting claims in marking her birth year correctly in the title as unknown and then, just a few lines down near the beginning of the text, claiming her birth year as 610 AD. | Yet the Cosmos Magazine article states that "She was born in 610 CE," while the Seondeok chapter of *Unforgotten Sisters* makes two conflicting claims in marking her birth year correctly in the title as unknown and then, just a few lines down near the beginning of the text, claiming her birth year as 610 AD. | ||
- | ### Peony seed anecdote | + | I could not find any source for this claim of 610 CE for the year Seondeok was born, and it seems implausible given the known historical record: |
+ | For one thing, the Silla-era historical record *Hwarang Segi* (花郞世記) claims Seondeok' | ||
+ | This is not impossible, certainly, but somewhat unlikely. | ||
+ | |||
+ | Even if we disregard Jinpyeong' | ||
+ | |||
+ | For one, When she was elevated as her father' | ||
+ | |||
+ | > 王薨, 無子, 國人立德曼, | ||
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+ | - 三國史記 卷第五 新羅本記第五 善德王 善德王立 (*Samguk Sagi* Book 5: Fifth Record of Silla, King Seondeok, King Seondeok takes the throne) [Hangul translation](https:// | ||
+ | |||
+ | For another, in the extremely sexist editorial commentary from the 12th century when the *Samguk Sagi* was put together, the king is described as an elderly woman when she started her reign: | ||
+ | |||
+ | > 豈可許姥嫗出閨房, | ||
+ | |||
+ | - 三國史記 卷第五 新羅本記第五 善德王 論曰 (*Samguk Sagi* Book 5: Fifth Record of Silla, King Seondeok, In discussion) [Hangul translation](https:// | ||
+ | |||
+ | While, again, this commentary is very misogynistic, | ||
+ | Rather, it seems likely that the king would have been berated as a callow and silly girl instead if she had taken the throne as a young woman of 22.((This discussion of Seondeok' | ||
+ | |||
+ | ### Claimed age of 15 during events | ||
+ | |||
+ | From the Cosmos Magazine article: | ||
+ | |||
+ | > This sentence, found on a votive jar dedicated to her grandmother, | ||
+ | |||
+ | > At the age of 15 she was introduced to Confucianism, | ||
+ | |||
+ | The assertions regarding the existence of such a votive jar or the circumstances of the princess' | ||
+ | Her age during those events is another claim which also has no basis in any historical record I could find. | ||
+ | |||
+ | ### Peony seed anecdote | ||
The Cosmos Magazine article states: | The Cosmos Magazine article states: | ||
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The anecdote itself is well-known and attested in both the *Samguk Sagi* and *Samguk Yusa,* but no record dates this specifically to when she was seven years of age as claimed by Bernardi. | The anecdote itself is well-known and attested in both the *Samguk Sagi* and *Samguk Yusa,* but no record dates this specifically to when she was seven years of age as claimed by Bernardi. | ||
- | The *Samguk Sagi* states she made this prediction as a princess while her father was still king but does not pinpoint the age, while the *Samguk Yusa* states the episode took place during her own reign when she was likely much older than seven. | + | *Samguk Sagi* states she made this prediction as a princess while her father was still king but does not pinpoint the age, while *Samguk Yusa* states the episode took place during her own reign when she was likely much older than seven. |
- | ### The construction | + | ### Background |
- | The Cosmos Magazine article claims the following about the background for the construction of Cheomseongdae: | + | The Cosmos Magazine article claims the following about the king's desire to build Cheomseongdae: |
> Sonduk had begged her father for several years to set out on its building, but eventually accomplished the challenge on her own. | > Sonduk had begged her father for several years to set out on its building, but eventually accomplished the challenge on her own. | ||
- | As far as I know, however, no historical record on Cheomseongdae goes into this level of detail about the background of its construction. The first record on Cheomseongdae is the following line in the *Samguk Yusa:* | + | As far as I know, however, no historical record on Cheomseongdae goes into this level of detail about the background of its construction. The first record on Cheomseongdae is the following line in *Samguk Yusa:* |
> 別記云是王代鍊石築瞻星臺 (A separate record states that it was in this King[ Seondeok]' | > 別記云是王代鍊石築瞻星臺 (A separate record states that it was in this King[ Seondeok]' | ||
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Later records do not go into much more detail than the year of construction, | Later records do not go into much more detail than the year of construction, | ||
- | There is some disagreement between records on when it was built, | + | There is some disagreement between |
### The method of observation from Cheomseongdae | ### The method of observation from Cheomseongdae | ||
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> According to the historical accounts, when astronomers were observing in Sonduk’s tower, they laid on their back and watched the celestial objects through four domes on the top, arranged in a square and oriented towards the four cardinal points. | > According to the historical accounts, when astronomers were observing in Sonduk’s tower, they laid on their back and watched the celestial objects through four domes on the top, arranged in a square and oriented towards the four cardinal points. | ||
- | This would be remarkable if true because there is no such historical account to my knowledge, and to the knowledge of many scholars over the centuries who have speculated on how Cheomseongdae was used for observation.((There is an ongoing | + | This would be remarkable if true because there is no such historical account to my knowledge, and to the knowledge of many scholars over the centuries who have speculated on how Cheomseongdae was used for observation.((There is an ongoing |
If Bernardi can present a historical record in support of her assertion, of course, it would be a notable find. | If Bernardi can present a historical record in support of her assertion, of course, it would be a notable find. | ||
However, I personally could find no such record myself and could not trace it to any of the cited sources of *Unforgotten Sisters* that I could access. | However, I personally could find no such record myself and could not trace it to any of the cited sources of *Unforgotten Sisters* that I could access. | ||
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### Women of Korea | ### Women of Korea | ||
- | * Yung-Chung Kim, Women of Korea: A History from Ancient Times to 1945 (2nd ed. 1977) | + | * Yung-Chung Kim, *Women of Korea: A History from Ancient Times to 1945* 2nd ed. (1977 Ewha Womans University Press) |
- | This book (hereinafter " | + | This book (hereinafter " |
However, *Women of Korea* does not go beyond the known historical information on Seondeok and I could not find any mention of details unique to *Unforgotten Sisters* such as her passion for astronomy or having a Tang ambassador as a tutor. | However, *Women of Korea* does not go beyond the known historical information on Seondeok and I could not find any mention of details unique to *Unforgotten Sisters* such as her passion for astronomy or having a Tang ambassador as a tutor. | ||
See [[wok_transcript]] for the transcribed contents of this book pertaining to Seondeok. | See [[wok_transcript]] for the transcribed contents of this book pertaining to Seondeok. | ||
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#### Books | #### Books | ||
- | I searched through | + | I searched through |
- | These were: | + | These were, in order of their appearance in the bibliography: |
* Paul J. Campbell, Louise S. Grinstein, *Women of Mathematics, | * Paul J. Campbell, Louise S. Grinstein, *Women of Mathematics, | ||
* Thomas Hockey, Katherine Bracher, Marvin Bolt, Virginia Trimble, JoAnn Palmeri, Richard Jarrell, Jordan D. Marché, F. Jamil Ragep, *Biographical Encyclopedia of Astronomers*, | * Thomas Hockey, Katherine Bracher, Marvin Bolt, Virginia Trimble, JoAnn Palmeri, Richard Jarrell, Jordan D. Marché, F. Jamil Ragep, *Biographical Encyclopedia of Astronomers*, | ||
- | * L S Multhauf, Biography in *Dictionary of Scientific Biography*, New York , 1970–1990 | ||
* Marilyn Ogilvie, Joy Harvey, *The Biographical Dictionary of Women in Science*, Routledge, 2000 | * Marilyn Ogilvie, Joy Harvey, *The Biographical Dictionary of Women in Science*, Routledge, 2000 | ||
* Ogilvie, Marilyn Bailey, *Women in Science: antiquity through the nineteenth century*, Boston: Massechussets Institute of Technology, 1986 | * Ogilvie, Marilyn Bailey, *Women in Science: antiquity through the nineteenth century*, Boston: Massechussets Institute of Technology, 1986 | ||
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#### Web sources | #### Web sources | ||
- | I also looked through all the working links in the Web section of the bibliography and could not find Seondeok mentioned in any of them, either. | + | I also looked through all the working links in the Web section of the bibliography and could not find Seondeok mentioned in any of them. |
+ | |||
+ | #### Note on citations in the book | ||
+ | |||
+ | Overall *Unforgotten Sisters* suffered from inadequate citations, having only a bibliography for the entire book without pinpoint citations, footnotes, or endnotes. | ||
+ | The vague citations made it difficult to match ideas and information to sources. | ||
+ | Though understandable that a work of popular science would not have the same citation standards as a full academic work, at the very least chapter-level bibliographies would have made for better attribution and sourcing. | ||
### Sŏndŏk: Princess of the Moon and Stars | ### Sŏndŏk: Princess of the Moon and Stars | ||
- | * Sheri Holman, Sŏndŏk: Princess of the Moon and Stars (2002) | + | * Sheri Holman, |
- | Not directly cited in *Unforgotten Sisters* or the Cosmos Magazine article and found by independent search, this middle-grade novel (hereinafter " | + | Not directly cited in *Unforgotten Sisters* or the Cosmos Magazine article and found by independent search, this middle-grade novel (hereinafter " |
There are even passages with very similar wording. | There are even passages with very similar wording. | ||
- | The following is a chart of comparisons between quotes from the [[https:// | + | #### Comparison |
- | ^ Cosmos Magazine article | + | The following is a chart of comparisons between quotes from the [[https:// |
+ | |||
+ | ^ Cosmos Magazine article | ||
|Will I ever know the truth about the stars?\\ I’m too young to engage in theories about our Universe.\\ I just know that I want to understand more. I want to know all\\ I can. Why should it be forbidden? | |Will I ever know the truth about the stars?\\ I’m too young to engage in theories about our Universe.\\ I just know that I want to understand more. I want to know all\\ I can. Why should it be forbidden? | ||
|This sentence, found on a votive jar dedicated to her grandmother, | |This sentence, found on a votive jar dedicated to her grandmother, | ||
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|At seven, for example, a box of peony seeds arrived at the Court, from China. | |At seven, for example, a box of peony seeds arrived at the Court, from China. | ||
|her tutor, the Chinese ambassador Lin Fang, who was also an astronomer. | |her tutor, the Chinese ambassador Lin Fang, who was also an astronomer. | ||
+ | |At the age of 15 she was introduced to Confucianism, | ||
|Sonduk, however, used to make observations every night and was mostly self-taught. | |Sonduk, however, used to make observations every night and was mostly self-taught. | ||
|Convinced of the necessity of a strictly domestic occupation for females, [Lin Fang] replied: “Surely you can’t think I can have a conversation on such important topics with a young woman! It would be unnatural and totally inappropriate.” | |Convinced of the necessity of a strictly domestic occupation for females, [Lin Fang] replied: “Surely you can’t think I can have a conversation on such important topics with a young woman! It would be unnatural and totally inappropriate.” | ||
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|Sonduk had begged her father for several years to set out on [Cheomseongdae' | |Sonduk had begged her father for several years to set out on [Cheomseongdae' | ||
- | Interestingly, Bernardi' | + | #### Two dubious claims contradicted by Princess of the Moon and Stars |
+ | |||
+ | Despite the extensive parallels between most of the dubious Seondeok/ | ||
+ | |||
+ | ##### Year of birth | ||
+ | |||
+ | At the start of *Princess of the Moon and Stars,* the princess is 14 years old in the 16th year of her father Jinpyeong' | ||
+ | This places her year of birth in the somewhat plausible second year of Jinpyeong' | ||
+ | 581 CE, at any rate, directly contradicts Bernardi' | ||
+ | As seen in the comparison chart above, however, despite the disparity in birth years the claim that events like the beginning of Lin Fang's tutelage and solar eclipse prediction took place when she was 15 years old is another close, if not exact, parallel. | ||
+ | |||
+ | ##### Method of observation from Cheomseongdae | ||
+ | |||
+ | Bernardi' | ||
+ | The fictional body of the book, which takes place during Seondeok' | ||
> It is almost certain that a wooden platform made the tower even higher, but modern scientists are not absolutely sure as to how the tower was used. It is shrouded in mystery. (p. 161) | > It is almost certain that a wooden platform made the tower even higher, but modern scientists are not absolutely sure as to how the tower was used. It is shrouded in mystery. (p. 161) | ||
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Furthermore, | Furthermore, | ||
- | ## Tentative conclusions | + | ### Encyclopedia.com entry and its sources |
+ | |||
+ | Though not a source directly cited in *Unforgotten Sisters,* the [Encyclopedia.com entry for Sondok](https:// | ||
+ | Encyclopedia.com' | ||
+ | Other pages used as sources for the Encyclopedia.com entry, including [Sondok/ | ||
+ | |||
+ | Judging by the access dates on the online sources, the Encyclopedia.com entry was evidently written in 2004 after the publication of *Princess of the Moon and Stars* and predating *Unforgotten Sisters* by over a decade. | ||
+ | It seems plausible that these sources had time to percolate into scholarship as legitimate historical sources at first glance, especially where multiple sources agreed. | ||
+ | |||
+ | ## Findings and conclusions | ||
+ | |||
+ | ### Summary chart of findings | ||
+ | |||
+ | A survey of the supporting material for *Unforgotten Sisters* and the Cosmos Magazine article reveals the following support, or lack of it, for the dubious claims about Seondeok: | ||
+ | |||
+ | ^ Dubious claim ^ Any non-fiction source | ||
+ | |Grandmother' | ||
+ | |15 years old at the time | No | Close | | ||
+ | |Born in 610 CE | No | No | | ||
+ | |Peony anecdote at seven years of age | No | Yes | | ||
+ | |Lin Fang | No | Yes | | ||
+ | |Astronomer princess | ||
+ | |Solar eclipse prediction | ||
+ | |Entreaty to father for observatory | ||
+ | |Method of observation | ||
+ | |||
+ | ### Tentative conclusions | ||
- | * Almost | + | * Unless some alternate non-fiction source can be presented, almost |
- | * The Seondeok chapter in *Unforgotten Sisters* and the Cosmos Magazine article based on it should be retracted or corrected to remove the fictional material. | + | |
- | * If the chapter and article are left as they are, they should be marked or otherwise notified as largely fictional, and Ms. Holman' | + | * The Seondeok chapter in *Unforgotten Sisters* and the Cosmos Magazine article based on it should be retracted or heavily |
+ | * If the chapter and article are left in their current state, they should be marked or otherwise notified as largely fictional, and Ms. Holman' | ||
+ | * Ideally, all live outlets purporting to be non-fictional sources on Seondeok, such as Encyclopedia.com, |
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