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I became aware of a Cosmos Magazine article [The unforgotten sisters: Sonduk, the astronomer queen](https:// | I became aware of a Cosmos Magazine article [The unforgotten sisters: Sonduk, the astronomer queen](https:// | ||
- | These include claims that the female king was an astronomer herself as a princess, had a Tang ambassador | + | These include claims that the female king was an astronomer herself as a princess, had a Tang ambassador |
I found out from reading the article that it was adapted from an earlier book by the same author, Gabriella Bernardi' | I found out from reading the article that it was adapted from an earlier book by the same author, Gabriella Bernardi' | ||
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The following are the claims in the Cosmos Magazine article and/or the Seondeok chapter of *Unforgotten Sisters* that I found dubious for not being found in recorded history: | The following are the claims in the Cosmos Magazine article and/or the Seondeok chapter of *Unforgotten Sisters* that I found dubious for not being found in recorded history: | ||
- | * The princess((Seondeok was known as Deokman before she took the throne; the regnal title " | + | * The princess((Seondeok was known as Deokman before she took the throne; the regnal title " |
* She was 15 years old when she left messages on her grandmother' | * She was 15 years old when she left messages on her grandmother' | ||
* She was born in 610 CE. | * She was born in 610 CE. | ||
* When she was seven years old, she predicted gifted peonies' | * When she was seven years old, she predicted gifted peonies' | ||
- | * A Chinese ambassador | + | * A Chinese ambassador, Lin Fang, served as her tutor. |
* She was dedicated to the study of astronomy. | * She was dedicated to the study of astronomy. | ||
* She accurately predicted a solar eclipse. | * She accurately predicted a solar eclipse. | ||
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Some of the problems are elaborated in more detail below: | Some of the problems are elaborated in more detail below: | ||
- | ### Claimed year of birth | + | ### Year of birth |
Seondeok' | Seondeok' | ||
Yet the Cosmos Magazine article states that "She was born in 610 CE," while the Seondeok chapter of *Unforgotten Sisters* makes two conflicting claims in marking her birth year correctly in the title as unknown and then, just a few lines down near the beginning of the text, claiming her birth year as 610 AD. | Yet the Cosmos Magazine article states that "She was born in 610 CE," while the Seondeok chapter of *Unforgotten Sisters* makes two conflicting claims in marking her birth year correctly in the title as unknown and then, just a few lines down near the beginning of the text, claiming her birth year as 610 AD. | ||
- | ### Claimed | + | I could not find any source for this claim of 610 CE for the year Seondeok was born, and it seems implausible given the known historical record: |
+ | For one thing, the Silla-era historical record *Hwarang Segi* (花郞世記) claims Seondeok' | ||
+ | This is not impossible, certainly, but somewhat unlikely. | ||
+ | |||
+ | Even if we disregard Jinpyeong' | ||
+ | |||
+ | For one, When she was elevated as her father' | ||
+ | |||
+ | > 王薨, 無子, 國人立德曼, | ||
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+ | - 三國史記 卷第五 新羅本記第五 善德王 善德王立 (*Samguk Sagi* Book 5: Fifth Record of Silla, King Seondeok, King Seondeok takes the throne) [Hangul translation](https:// | ||
+ | |||
+ | For another, in the extremely sexist editorial commentary from the 12th century when the *Samguk Sagi* was put together, the king is described as an elderly woman when she started her reign: | ||
+ | |||
+ | > 豈可許姥嫗出閨房, | ||
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+ | - 三國史記 卷第五 新羅本記第五 善德王 論曰 (*Samguk Sagi* Book 5: Fifth Record of Silla, King Seondeok, In discussion) [Hangul translation](https:// | ||
+ | |||
+ | While, again, this commentary is very misogynistic, | ||
+ | Rather, it seems likely that the king would have been berated as a callow and silly girl instead if she had taken the throne as a young woman of 22.((This discussion of Seondeok' | ||
+ | |||
+ | ### Claimed | ||
From the Cosmos Magazine article: | From the Cosmos Magazine article: | ||
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> At the age of 15 she was introduced to Confucianism, | > At the age of 15 she was introduced to Confucianism, | ||
- | The assertions | + | The assertions |
- | Her age during those events is another | + | Her age during those events is another claim which also has no basis in any historical record I could find. |
- | ### Claimed age during peony seed anecdote | + | ### Peony seed anecdote |
The Cosmos Magazine article states: | The Cosmos Magazine article states: | ||
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Later records do not go into much more detail than the year of construction, | Later records do not go into much more detail than the year of construction, | ||
- | There is some disagreement between later records on when it was built, with 15th century *Sejong Silok Jiriji* (世宗實錄地理志, | + | There is some disagreement between later records on when it was built, with the 15th-century *Sejong Silok Jiriji* (世宗實錄地理志, |
### The method of observation from Cheomseongdae | ### The method of observation from Cheomseongdae | ||
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I also looked through all the working links in the Web section of the bibliography and could not find Seondeok mentioned in any of them. | I also looked through all the working links in the Web section of the bibliography and could not find Seondeok mentioned in any of them. | ||
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+ | #### Note on citations in the book | ||
+ | |||
+ | Overall *Unforgotten Sisters* suffered from inadequate citations, having only a bibliography for the entire book without pinpoint citations, footnotes, or endnotes. | ||
+ | The vague citations made it difficult to match ideas and information to sources. | ||
+ | Though understandable that a work of popular science would not have the same citation standards as a full academic work, at the very least chapter-level bibliographies would have made for better attribution and sourcing. | ||
### Sŏndŏk: Princess of the Moon and Stars | ### Sŏndŏk: Princess of the Moon and Stars | ||
- | * Sheri Holman, Sŏndŏk: Princess of the Moon and Stars (2002) | + | * Sheri Holman, |
Not directly cited in *Unforgotten Sisters* or the Cosmos Magazine article and found by independent search, this middle-grade novel (hereinafter " | Not directly cited in *Unforgotten Sisters* or the Cosmos Magazine article and found by independent search, this middle-grade novel (hereinafter " | ||
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|Sonduk had begged her father for several years to set out on [Cheomseongdae' | |Sonduk had begged her father for several years to set out on [Cheomseongdae' | ||
- | #### Two dubious claims contradicted by *Princess of the Moon and Stars* | + | #### Two dubious claims contradicted by Princess of the Moon and Stars |
- | Despite the extensive parallels between most of dubious claims and Holman' | + | Despite the extensive parallels between most of the dubious |
- | ##### Claimed year of birth | + | ##### Year of birth |
- | At the start of *Princess of the Moon and Stars,* the princess is 14 years old in the 16th year of her father Jinpyeong' | + | At the start of *Princess of the Moon and Stars,* the princess is 14 years old in the 16th year of her father Jinpyeong' |
- | This places her year of birth in the very plausible second year of Jinpyeong' | + | This places her year of birth in the somewhat |
- | As seen in the comparison chart above, however, the claim that events like the beginning of Lin Fang's tutelage took place when she was 15 years old is another close, if not exact, parallel. | + | 581 CE, at any rate, directly |
+ | As seen in the comparison chart above, however, | ||
##### Method of observation from Cheomseongdae | ##### Method of observation from Cheomseongdae | ||
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I am unsure about the strength of the wooden platform hypothesis, but at any rate this directly contradicts Bernardi' | I am unsure about the strength of the wooden platform hypothesis, but at any rate this directly contradicts Bernardi' | ||
Furthermore, | Furthermore, | ||
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+ | ### Encyclopedia.com entry and its sources | ||
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+ | Though not a source directly cited in *Unforgotten Sisters,* the [Encyclopedia.com entry for Sondok](https:// | ||
+ | Encyclopedia.com' | ||
+ | Other pages used as sources for the Encyclopedia.com entry, including [Sondok/ | ||
+ | |||
+ | Judging by the access dates on the online sources, the Encyclopedia.com entry was evidently written in 2004 after the publication of *Princess of the Moon and Stars* and predating *Unforgotten Sisters* by over a decade. | ||
+ | It seems plausible that these sources had time to percolate into scholarship as legitimate historical sources at first glance, especially where multiple sources agreed. | ||
## Findings and conclusions | ## Findings and conclusions | ||
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### Tentative conclusions | ### Tentative conclusions | ||
- | * Almost | + | * Unless some alternate non-fiction source can be presented, almost |
* Other assertions with unclear factual support need to be sourced better or retracted. | * Other assertions with unclear factual support need to be sourced better or retracted. | ||
- | * The Seondeok chapter in *Unforgotten Sisters* and the Cosmos Magazine article based on it should be retracted, or heavily corrected to remove the fictional material. | + | * The Seondeok chapter in *Unforgotten Sisters* and the Cosmos Magazine article based on it should be retracted or heavily corrected to remove the fictional material. |
- | * If the chapter and article are left as they are, they should be marked or otherwise notified as largely fictional, and Ms. Holman' | + | * If the chapter and article are left in their current state, they should be marked or otherwise notified as largely fictional, and Ms. Holman' |
+ | * Ideally, all live outlets purporting to be non-fictional sources on Seondeok, such as Encyclopedia.com, |
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